Comment by greenmachine1123
on 2024-05-18T13:37:09-05:00
For better or worse borrowed power kept the game feeling new and fresh. If they truly do eventually keep multiple expansions of ‘evergreen’ features around then we’re going to end up with a MASSIVE amount of bloat and frankly stale gameplay.
Comment by ThatOneGuy4239
on 2024-05-18T14:10:09-05:00
For better or worse borrowed power kept the game feeling new and fresh. If they truly do eventually keep multiple expansions of ‘evergreen’ features around then we’re going to end up with a MASSIVE amount of bloat and frankly stale gameplay.
They really can’t please everyone, can they?
Comment by Nagganx
on 2024-05-18T14:11:32-05:00
For better or worse borrowed power kept the game feeling new and fresh. If they truly do eventually keep multiple expansions of ‘evergreen’ features around then we’re going to end up with a MASSIVE amount of bloat and frankly stale gameplay.
but people constantly complained about it. and now people want that stuff back?. its always a weird dilemma.
Comment by Korgarth
on 2024-05-18T15:12:21-05:00
For better or worse borrowed power kept the game feeling new and fresh. If they truly do eventually keep multiple expansions of ‘evergreen’ features around then we’re going to end up with a MASSIVE amount of bloat and frankly stale gameplay.
The new hero talent will bring some change to the game so its good borrowed power is gone and new stuff is going to stay.
Also they can continue talent systems and stuff like that to improve ir
Comment by neillio
on 2024-05-18T15:13:14-05:00
They really can’t please everyone, can they?
For better or worse borrowed power kept the game feeling new and fresh. If they truly do eventually keep multiple expansions of ‘evergreen’ features around then we’re going to end up with a MASSIVE amount of bloat and frankly stale gameplay.
They really can’t please everyone, can they?
that is one of the best comments i have seen in days and so so true,
Comment by Sneakybeaky
on 2024-05-18T15:56:43-05:00
Surely cross realm chat channels are coming right? And cross realm queuing?
Comment by Lautner
on 2024-05-18T16:00:02-05:00
For better or worse borrowed power kept the game feeling new and fresh. If they truly do eventually keep multiple expansions of ‘evergreen’ features around then we’re going to end up with a MASSIVE amount of bloat and frankly stale gameplay.
but people constantly complained about it. and now people want that stuff back?. its always a weird dilemma.
We thought we did.. but we didn’t
Comment by johntravolta342
on 2024-05-18T16:11:00-05:00
For better or worse borrowed power kept the game feeling new and fresh. If they truly do eventually keep multiple expansions of ‘evergreen’ features around then we’re going to end up with a MASSIVE amount of bloat and frankly stale gameplay.
I agree and I’ve always been pro borrowed power, even when the systems were at their lowest points. I think eventually we will go back to it in one way or another. They definitely can’t keep adding things to classes indefinitely, they already know that won’t work for too long.
Comment by MeteorStorm
on 2024-05-18T16:28:32-05:00
For better or worse borrowed power kept the game feeling new and fresh. If they truly do eventually keep multiple expansions of ‘evergreen’ features around then we’re going to end up with a MASSIVE amount of bloat and frankly stale gameplay.
They really can’t please everyone, can they?
It’s not possible for them to add power every expansion forever, they did that until MoP when every class could do just about everything, that’s when they realized they had to cut down on the bloat and started changing to borrowed power.
Comment by Soifon
on 2024-05-18T16:29:28-05:00
For better or worse borrowed power kept the game feeling new and fresh. If they truly do eventually keep multiple expansions of ‘evergreen’ features around then we’re going to end up with a MASSIVE amount of bloat and frankly stale gameplay.
but people constantly complained about it. and now people want that stuff back?. its always a weird dilemma.
We thought we did.. but we didn’t
The complaint was not borrowed power. The complaint was that it felt bad but since most are illiterate idiots and have problems with expressing themselves they used words that they knew.
We’ve had BFA that felt overall bad but got saved by the final patch with corruption effects – so, people do like borrowed power. They dont like when it is badly executed (*cough* azerite armor *cough*).
Then you had SL where you had 4 covenants where some classes had 2 or even 3 separate covenants for each spec. These covenants being gated heavily.
Comment by Silverized
on 2024-05-18T17:15:46-05:00
Such an interesting discussion happening here, and one that I hope you will all learn from.
When you see a take that is echoed extremely loud in a community going forward, I hope you realize from now that, even though it might seem loud in the moment, it will always only represent a fraction of the playerbase. This is why, when something like no borrowed power is implemented, you will suddenly experience what feels like a shift in opinion among the community, because then the next loud take becomes the opposite: “bring back borrowed power”. Because now the first group is satisfied, but the 2nd group is dissatisfied. This is why you can’t take any opinion you see that seems like the majority at face value, and also why you can see wildly different 180 type takes in a single community.
This doesn’t even get into the fact that only extreme opinions are represented online. It’s only either comments from people who love something or hate something, because the people who are genuinely indifferent to a thing will never bother making a comment in the first place. Think back to something you are completely neutral on, something that you haven’t thought about in 20 years. Why would you ever create a comment on that?
This knowledge can be applied to everything in life, not just games. Anyway I hope that some of you learned something, and apply it going forward when engaging with other people <3
Never say “but that’s the opposite of what everyone asked for last time”, because who you are talking with is very likely a completely new person that never engaged with the initial discourse anyway.
Example, I never engaged with the borrowed power discussion because I thought it wasn’t very important compared to others. Nowadays you’ll see me asking for borrowed power back, because I miss it a lot. Does that mean I changed opinion just because “everyone” said the opposite recently? No, I’m just a new person that have always had this take that borrowed power is good, but I didn’t have a reason to engage in the conversation, because I was satisfied before. I engage now, because I’m not satisfied and find the current systems stale and boring.
There are billions of people in the world. Who you talked to before does not = who you talk to now.
Anyway that’s my experience in life so far. Do what you will with it
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